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[This is the second part  of  Doug's  letter  to  Mrs.  Elizabeth
(Candler) Graham, dated OCT 1996. Sorry about the inconvience  of
two files, but I try to keep these under the  limits  for  attach
ments set by some providers. Again, Doug Tucker gets  credit  for
the information; typos are mine.  LSS]

There remain many unanswered questions about William  CANDLER  of
Ireland. Who were his parents? Where was his home in England? The 
Candler family legend implies that William  was  from  a  Candler
line that had established itself in  Northumberland  about  1600.
Other evidence seems to point back to Walshingham or  Hamesby  in
County Norfolk as possible ancestral homes of  William  Candler's
branch of the Candler / Candeler/ Kaendler family.

Then we need to consider that William Candler was an  officer  in
an Army regiment that was raised in County Kent and  was  led  by
Kentish officers. (Phayre, Elsyng, Nelson  and  Waller  were  all
from Kent although Waller also had Irish property.)  Doesn't this 
suggest that William, also, may  have  resided  in  Kent  in  the
1640s? Also, a second generation descendant  of  William  Candler
was named, curiously, Walsingham Candler.  Some  have  considered
this an obvious reference to the Candler family's roots near  Wal
singham, Norfolk. But there was also a Walsingham family residing 
in Ireland in the late 17th and early 18th centuries and the  Vil
liers family had a  magnificent  residence  in  London  that  was
called Walsingham house. In sum, we still do not know  very  much
about the origins of William Candler -- or Ann Villiers for  that
matter.

         Descendants of William and Ann CANDLER of Ireland

The descendants of William and Ann Villiers Candler (not counting 
Mary Candler, William's daughter by an earlier wife  who  married
Zachariah MOORMAN) can be traced to two sons: Thomas  (1663-1716)
and John (1665-c1700). Youngest son John is reported by  some  to
have married the daughter and heiress of John Walsingham, esq. of 
Kilblaine Castle in County Kilkenny. They had one  child,  Thomas
(1687- ? ) who married Elizabeth Ball, daughter of Abraham  Ball,
esq. of Darver, County Louth. Thomas and Elizabeth, who continued 
to live at Kilblaine Castle, had two children: Walsingham  (c1713
1759) and Mary Florinda (1715- ? ), neither  of  whom  reportedly
married or had issue. So ended  one  branch  of  the  CANDLER  of
Ireland family tree.

(I wonder if the peerage references are correct in  stating  that
Mary Florinda Candler did not marry. I found reference to a  deed
dated 1777 which listed a Florinda Sempill, widow of Sir  William
Sempill, knight, of Letterkenny, County Donegal.  "Florinda"  was
not a common name and there were other, later, ties  between  the
Candler and Sempill families. Perhaps Florinda  Sempill's  maiden
name was Mary Florinda Candler. Something to look into further.)







Thomas Candler, esq. (c1663-1716) inherited the title and  Callan
Castle estate of his  father.  In  1685/86,  he  married,  first,
Elizabeth  Burrell,  daughter  of  Capt.  William   Burrell   and
Elizabeth Phipps. Capt. Burrell had served with  William  Candler
under Sir Hardress Waller during  the  Irish  Rebellion  and  had
received land in Burnechurch in County Kilkenny, not far from Cal-
lan. Elizabeth Burrell Candler died before 1694  without  leaving
any surviving children. In 1697, Thomas Candler married again, to 
Jane Tuite (b.1677/79), daughter of Sir Henry Tuite,  Baronet  of
Sonnagh, County Westmeath and Diana Mabbot who was a niece of the 
late Edward Hyde, Earl of Clarendon.

Sir Henry Tuite (pronounced "toot") was a  direct  descendant  of
Sir Richard De Tuite, knight, who had  accompanied  Strongbow  to
Ireland in 1172. Though the Tuites  were  Norman-Irish  Catholics
and technically classified as Anglo-Irish, after  more  than  400
years on the Emerald Isle they were  Irish  to  the  core.  Their
family lands in Westmeath and Longford were confiscated  by  Crom
well in 1654 and the  Tuite  family  was  banished  to  Connaught
Province. They regained most of their lands after the Restoration 
(1660) only to be threatened with loss again after the defeat  of
the Irish Jacobites by William of Orange in 1789.

I have always wondered about the  circumstances  surrounding  the
marriage of Jane Tuite, a baronet's eldest daughter and  a  Roman
Catholic, to Thomas Candler,  who  was  a  Protestant  and  whose
family's social rank was that of an esquire, two notches  on  the
gentry ladder below Baronet. Given the times, it is possible that 
Jane Tuite's marriage to Thomas Candler may have been an alliance 
of considerable value and political security to the Tuite family. 
However, there are other possible angles to the Candler/Tuite mar-
riage.

Diana Mabbot Tuite, Jane's mother, was also a first cousin of the 
Duchess of York who was mother of Queen Mary (William & Mary) and 
future Queen Anne. Diana's parents were Kympton Mabbot and  Susan
Hyde, Edward Hyde's sister. (Edward Hyde's  daughter,  Anne,  was
one of the wives of James II.  Anne's oldest daughter, Mary,  was
on the English throne when Thomas Candler married Jane Tuite.)

There was another family relationship at work for Thomas and Jane 
Candler as well. (This all gets rather tricky  but  I'll  try  to
keep a connecting thread running throughout the story.)  Col.  Ed
ward Villiers, youngest brother of William, John and  George  Vil
liers, did not inherit the Viscount Grandison title  as  did  his
older brothers. He served in the Army where he  rose  to  Colonel
and was knighted by Charles II in 1680 and subsequently named Mar-
shal of the  Royal  Household.  Edward's  wife,  Frances  Howard,
served as governess to the princesses Mary and  Anne.  So  Thomas
Candler had tenuous royal connections through both his mother and 
his second wife.

We could add a third connection  because  Col.  Edward  Villiers'
daughter, Anne, who had been a playmate of Princess  Mary's,  was






already the mistress of Mary's husband, William of  Orange  (Mary
died in 1694). I should also  point  out  that  IF  Ann  Villiers
Candler was, in fact, the same person as the Catherine Ann Clarke 
who was reported to have been the first wife  of  John  Villiers,
third Viscount Grandison, then there is another level  of  family
connections because the Clarke family was closely related to both 
the Kympton and Mabbot families. Sorry,  but  that  was  the  con
voluted way of the English gentry the 17th and 18th centuries.

Back to more secure knowledge. Thomas and Jane Tuite Candler  had
four sons: Henry, William, Thomas  and  Daniel.  (The  Burke  and
other references on the Peerage, etc. do not include Daniel among 
the list of children reportedly the result of his "disownment" by 
his family for marrying an Irish woman.  Daniel's  assignment  to
Thomas rather than brother John is based on the  fact  that  John
reportedly died several years before Daniel was reportedly born.) 
Of their four sons, Henry and Daniel made the  biggest  mark  and
are discussed last.

Rev. William Candler (c1699-1753), Thomas and Jane's second  son,
earned a doctor of divinity  degree  and  served  the  church  of
Ireland initially in Dublin and later as  rector  of  St.  Mary's
Church in Castlecomer, County Kilkenny.  He  reportedly  married,
first, Elizabeth Aston and had two children: Henry (b. 1725)  and
Elizabeth who died young. Henry, who  became  a  lawyer,  married
Mrs. Elizabeth Mathews Elwood, by whom he  had  two  children.  A
son, Henry Jr., served as a captain in  the  Army  and  died,  un
married, at the battle of St. Domingo. Their daughter, Elizabeth, 
died in childhood.

Rev. William Candler married  secondly,  Mary  Ryves  (d.  1761),
daughter and heiress of Charles Ryves, Esq. of Dublin  and  a  co
heiress of Sir Richard Ryves, knight and Baron of the  Exchequer,
her father's older brother. William and Mary Ryves Candler had  a
son, Edward (1732-1807) and three daughters: Mary, Jane and Anne. 
Edward served as an officer in the Army and later married  Hester
Bury of County Cork.

Edward and Hester Bury Candler reportedly resided at Aghamure  in
County Kilkenny and had other property at Prior  Park  and  Combe
Hill in Somerset, but left no  surviving  sons.  Their  daughter,
Anne, married John Helsham,  esq.  of  Leggat's  Rath  in  County
Kilkenny. Their  only  son,  James  Helsham,  resided  in  County
Kilkenny and assumed the name Candler, only, by royal license  in
1838. The Helsham's only daughter, Jane,  married  Capt.  Barnett
first, Oliver Grace  second,  and  James  Hamilton,  esq.  third.
(Needs more research to see what became of this  "alias  Candler"
branch of the family.)

Apparently through his mother, Mary Ryves Candler, Edward Candler 
also inherited substantial properties in Norfolk and Lincolnshire 
from Margaret Cecil Brown, widow of Sir  Robert  Brown,  Baronet,
and daughter of Robert Cecil, second son of James Cecil, 3rd Earl 
of Salisbury. Under Royal license, Edward Candler took  the  name






Candler-Brown in 1803. Unfortunately, given all their property in 
Ireland and England,  Edward  and  Hester  Bury  Candler  had  no
children. At Edward's  death  in  1807,  the  male  Candler  line
through Rev. William Candler had died out. (It might be  interest
ing  to  see  what  happened  to  Edward   Candler-Brown's   many
properties.)

Thomas Candler (c1702 - ? ), third son of Thomas and  Jane  Tuite
Candler, lived in Dublin. He married, but his wife's name remains 
unknown to us. They had a son, John (c1733-1774), who resided  at
Castlewood  in   Queens   County,   who   died   without   issue.
("Castlewood" is considered one of the finest 18th century  manor
homes in all of Ireland. How it came  to  be  possessed  by  John
Candler is a question that needs further  research.  Maybe  there
was  more  than  one  Castlewood.)  Another  male  Candler  line,
however, ends abruptly!

Rev. Henry Candler (c1697-1757) esq., eldest son  of  Thomas  and
Jane, succeeded to his father's title and estate at Callan.  Like
his younger brother William, Henry earned a  doctor  of  divinity
degree and became the Archdeacon of  Ossory  and  Rector  of  the
Living of Callan. (The Archdeacon served under the Archbishop and 
was the business manager of church assets in the  Archdiocese  of
Ossory. The so-called Living of Callan  probably  refers  to  the
priory in Callan that apparently served as a training center  for
the Archdiocese.) Henry married Anne Flood, daughter  of  Francis
Flood, esq. of Burnechurch, County Kilkenny. Anne's brother,  War
den Flood, later became Lord Chief Justice of Ireland.

Rev. Henry and Anne had two  sons,  Thomas  and  William,  and  a
daughter, Anne Candler Berry of Dove Grove,  Kings  County.  Rev.
Thomas Candler (1731 - ? ) esq.  followed  his  father  into  the
Church of Ireland (Episcopalian)  and  reportedly  lived  at  Kil
moganny in County Kilkenny. (What happened to "Callan Castle"  is
unclear.)  He married Sarah Lechwood but they  had  no  children.
Rev. Thomas Candler passed the family's "esquire" title on to his 
nephew Henry, eldest son of his brother William.

William Candler (1732-1815), youngest  son  of  Henry  and  Anne,
served as a Captain in the 10th Regiment of Foot. After  retiring
from the Army, he married Mary Vavasour, only daughter of William 
Vavasour of Weston Hall,  Yorkshire  (not  his  heiress  as  some
references report.)   William  and  Mary  Candler  resided  on  a
Vavasour property in Acomb, Yorkshire and had two sons, Henry and 
Thomas, and a daughter Annabella, who married Sir Jonathan  Cope,
Baronet of Brewerne, Oxfordshire.

William and Mary Vavasour's oldest son, Henry (1765 - ? ), as men-
tioned earlier, succeeded to the Candler family's "esquire" title 
and the Irish properties of his uncle Thomas. He married Mary  As
cough, only child of William  Ascough,  esq.  of  Kirby  Malzart,
Yorkshire. They had 12 children, six of whom  were  sons  (Henry,
William, Jonathan-Thomas, Edward, Charles and  George).   Of  the
sons, Henry (1793-1825) died unmarried  and  passed  the  esquire






title to his brother, William (1795- ? ), who served as a Captain 
in the Royal Navy. William married Louisa Evered and  had  offspr
ing but at present I have no information on their children.

Henry and Mary's third son, Jonathan-Thomas  (1797-1832),  served
as a lieutenant in  the  Russian  Imperial  Guards  and  died  un
married. Edward (1800-1871), their fourth son, resided at Moreton 
Pinkney Manor, Banbury, Northamptonshire. He married Maria Janet, 
Baroness Sempill of Dun Edin, Edinburgh, Scotland in 1836 and  by
Royal license had his Candler surname changed to Sempill, only in 
1853. He and the Baroness had no children. Edward  died  in  1871
and, on the Baroness' death in 1883, the Sempill title passed  to
her cousin, Sir William Forbes, 8th Baronet of Craigevar. 

Of Henry and Mary Ascough Candler's youngest sons, Charles (1807- 
? ) and George (1809- ? ), I have no information  concerning  mar
riages or offspring.

Thomas Candler (1766-1824),  youngest  son  of  Edward  and  Mary
Vavasour Candler of Acomb, Yorkshire, served in the Imperial  Rus
sian Navy where he rose to the rank of Vice-Admiral and became  a
knight of the Orders of St. Anne and St. Catherine. (There  is  a
story lurking here, but I don't know it!) He married first, Maria 
de Lotaroff of a noble Russian family, but they had no  children.
He married second, Jane Booker, daughter  of  John  and  Isabella
Hamilton Booker.  (John  Booker,  esq.,  was  British  consul  at
Cronstadt, Russia.)  Their only son, William John  Candler,  died
young. Their five daughters  were  Agrapina  Isabella,  Annabella
Cope, Jane Greig, Mary Caroline Catherine,  and  Frances.  (Those
are all given names.)

Now back to the fourth and youngest son  of  Thomas  Candler  and
Jane Tuite. The family legend states that Daniel Candler was born 
at Callan Castle in County  Kilkenny,  probably  about  1706.  He
reportedly was disowned by his family for marrying an Irish woman 
who also may have been a servant in the  Candler  household.  The
family legend tells us only that Daniel and his Irish  wife,  Han
nah (or Anna), were  banished  from  County  Kilkenny  and  subse
quently settled in County Down, not far from Belfast. About 1735, 
Daniel, Hannah and their young family left Belfast and  emigrated
to the American colonies where they initially  settled  in  North
Carolina but later migrated north to Bedford Co.,  VA.  When  the
move to VA occurred is not clear, but it seems unlikely  that  it
was as early as the family legend would suggest since the Bedford 
Co. area of VA did not open up to settlement until about 1748.

Daniel and Hannah may have been introduced to the Quaker faith by 
Sarah Clark Lynch who held small Quaker meetings in her new  home
in Bedford Co. as early  as  1753.  (Charles  and  Sarah  Lynch's
property abutted the property of Daniel Candler.) It also is  pos
sible that Daniel  and  Hannah  became  Quakers  while  still  in
Ireland since Belfast was long a center of Irish Quaker activity. 
Whatever the case, the first public  record  we  have  of  Daniel
Candler in VA is a notation of his election as the first clerk of 






the new South River Quaker Meeting in 1756. He  resigned  a  year
later and moved his family a dozen  miles  further  west  to  the
Quaker frontier settlement at Goose Creek.

The Candler family biographies are reasonably accurate (as far as 
I have checked) from this point forward except for one point that 
comes from a 1788 letter written by Lucy Clark Moorman,  daughter
of Charles and Mary Adams Moorman of Albemarle  Co.,  VA  to  her
cousin, Thomas Moorman of Anson  Co.  NC.   Lucy  mentions  Hanna
Candler, who was still living at the time, as follows:
     "The mother of the VA Candler boys has a fine estate
     near Lynchburg. She is a remarkable woman for good
     sense, is well read, a fine talker and devoted mother.
     With an old Scotch teacher named McBridge she under-
     took to teach her children at home. She made a pretty
     good job of it."

My recollection is that Charles Howard Candler, in  his  book  on
your grandfather theorizes how Col. William  Candler  might  have
been the best educated man in early GA  and  suggested  that  the
Candler boys had all been sent back to England  to  be  educated.
Somehow, the "Scotch tutor" seems a more likely solution  to  the
education problem faced by the 18th century Candlers.

As you may recall, Daniel and Hannah Candler had five  sons,  two
of whom (Henry and Thomas) reportedly died fighting Indians  near
the forks of the Yadkin in NC in the  1760s.  John  Candler,  the
oldest son who married Elizabeth Gibson, remained  a  Quaker  and
stayed in VA.  His  son  John  Jr.  became  a  well-known  Quaker
preacher and missionary who traveled througout the  western  hemi
sphere and published several books.

Daniel and Hannah's son, Zedekiah, married Ann Moorman  (daughter
of Zachariah and Elizabeth Terrell Moorman) and  settled  in  Pit
tsylvania County, VA where they named their home, Callan  Castle.
(Guess  they  knew  the  essence  of  the  family  legend.)  Some
researchers have confused the Callan Castle name with  the  small
village of Callands in  the  same  county.  However,  the  Callan
Castle property of Zed Candler was about 12  miles  southwest  of
Callands which took its name from the Calland family that  opened
a store in what was called Chathan in 1772.

Zed and Ann Moorman Candler subsequently migrated to  western  NC
where Zed received a series of land grants that  exceeded  40,000
acres. (Apparently these land grants had been "earned" by Zed and 
his deceased brothers Thomas and Henry, while serving in  the  NC
militia during the Indian troubles associated with the French and 
Indian War and the decade following the War.

This vast property, which ran west from  the  western  border  of
present-day city of Asheville past Candler, NC, was left to Zed's 
oldest son, Zachariah Candler who married  Rachel  Thornhill  who
some have reported to be a granddaughter of Daniel Boone. I  have
tried to chase the Boone/Thornhill connection down  without  much






luck and I suspect that the family connection, if there was  one,
was more distant than Daniel's granddaughter. In the late  1880s,
Mary Candler Lusk, a great-granddaughter of Zachariah and  Rachel
Candler, sold  some  of  the  original  Candler  property  around
Asheville to William Vanderbuilt who was assembling property  for
his vast Biltmore estate.

I read somewhere (possibly in Charles Howard Candler's book) that 
Col. William Candler of GA considered his younger brother  Zed  a
"rotten Loyalist" during the Revolutionary War and that William's 
family and that of Zed were deeply estranged for many  years  (up
until the turn of the 20th century). Yet Zed Candler received his 
NC land grants after the end of the War which  does  not  seem  a
likely outcome for a rotten Loyalist...

That's about all the new information  (plus  some  opinions  that
will probably prove controversial) I have on the Candler  family.
...I have compiled them from a large number of sources  available
here in the U.S., but have not  had  the  luxury  of  seeing  the
primary documentation which rests in archives in Ireland  and  in
England.... Best regards, Doug Tucker.

[A BIG thanks to Doug for sharing this with us. But may I "gently 
remind" everyone that we have yet to locate primary or even "good 
secondary" documention for  William  Candler's  daughter  of  his
first marriage, as wife of "Zachariah" Moorman,  founder  of  the
MOORMAN  family  in  Virginia.  Admittedly,  circa  1788  letters
"highly suggests" a kinship between the families. I'm not  saying
a kinship does not exist; I am only saying we haven't  documented
it yet.  I applaud those who are looking for records in  England,
Scotland and Ireland--proof may well only be found on  that  side
of the "big pond"; but meanwhile, we shouldn't lose sight of  the
need to complete documentation on these families in VA,  NC  etc.
LSS]