DanielCarrell

Daniel CARRELL of Westmoreland Co. VA
probable father of Demse (1710-1776)
 notes taken by and with comments by Linda Sparks Starr

from Virginia Carrolls and Their Neighbors 1618-1800s by Elizabeth Carroll Foster, Heritage Bks, 1999.

p. 27 undated, but positioned between entries in 1623-1643 and 1679-1689:  Thomas and Daniel Carroll, patentees of lands in Maryland (O'Brien, Irish Settlers in American V.VI p. 211)

p. 29 under recorded wills in VA: Daniel 1773 will, Brunswick Co.; 1671 York Co., 1714 inv. Westmoreland Co.; Daniel 1787 inven. Fairfax Co. 

p. 72 under York Co.: (Was Daniel d. 1713 will proved 1714 Westmoreland Co., wife Mary, son Demsey (papist) -- the son of 1660 Daniel? See Daniel's 1713 will, Westmoreland Co; Demsey's 1743 will, Fairfax Co.; see also Northumberland & Loudoun Cos.)  [Linda here -- I asked Rhoda
to check her Fairfax Co. books; there is NO will for *a* Dempsey/Demse in Fairfax Co. 1743. Foster mentions it, but doesn't provide a book/page number for it.] The above was at the end of this entry:
1660, Nov. 20/Dec. 20 - Daniel Carrell will: "I do give and bequeath to my wife Judith Carrel .. unto my dau Deborah Carrell .. Moreover, my wife being with child, and if it be a man child, I do give him my land if he liveth .. wit: Liv??, ??? & William ?Johnson; 1671 "proved in court by oath of Wm Garver & ordered that John Druvet who intermarryed with Deborah Carrel the dec'd dau be paid what approved justly due to him in right of his wife from the dec'd will."  prb'd Apr 1673: wife Judith Carrell being with child; dau Debora Carrell m. John Druvet; dau Ann m. Robert Holmes; 1691, Oct 18 -- Robert Holmes leased to Thos. Allen of Elizabeth City; 1697, Mar 18 - 1698 -- probate Robert Holmes will: to Ann Carrell & Ellynor Allen (will may have been devised 16 SEP 1636) [Foster quotes deeds and order books here.]  [Linda here: this seems 'reaching' to be the Daniel d1714 Westmoreland Co., doesn't it? It also seems the 'man child' turned out to be daughter Ann who m. Robert Holmes???]

Westmoreland Co. VA
p. 99: 1782 W. Brent lived in Stafford Co., and no doubt was Col. Wm Brent d.1782 .. m. Eleanor, dau of Daniel Carroll of MD

1713 June 19 - 24 Jul 28, 1714 Daniel Carroll will ... to my son-in-law (step son) Edward Porter. son to my present wife Mary .. wit: John Hobson, Thos Sorrell; 1714, 19 June - Daniel Carroll inv, signed Mary Carroll value 15,000 lbs tobacco; wits Elias Morriss, Wm Murphy, Wm L/Synton, returned 14 July.  [LSS -- section on West. Co. began bottom p. 98 -- this is 1st Daniel  to appear in the records. Other highlighted names of interest before his will: John Walton, Nicholas Spencer, W. Brent (1782), Carrolls of MD, Joseph Hardwick, Willo. Allerton, Jarrtt Ford. And CARROLLs: several Johns, Dennis,  James 

[LSS -- p. 102 note after Demse's will -- "Some researchers, one being a Mrs Bass Bartlett and Allied Families states that Daniel had one son, Demse, by his first wife. His 2nd wife, Mrs. Porter, had two sons, William & Edward Porter. All of this appears supported by documents." This is repeated at bottom of page: "Lucy A. Sips, Fairmont W Va and DAR Mag, Mar 1923 -- Bass's Bartlett & Allied Families ...] 

p. 106 under Middlesex Co. VA:  1673 Daniel Carroll Middlesex Co., MD (?or VA) in O'Brien p. 49.

from "Demse Carrell: A Study" by Nancy B. Fratt, Magazine of VA Genealogy, v.27, No. 4, NOV 1989, pages 231-238:  
"A Daniel Carrill was one of fifty-five headrights claimed by Edward Thomas for whom Thomas received 2750 acres of land in Essex County on __ October 1697. Daniel Carryl was also witness to a deed in 1702 in that same county. It should be noted that other Carrolls lived in the Northern Neck in the years 1695 to 1716, including William, John, and Edward. However, the close association of the Porter and Carrell families, as well as the name Daniel given to Demse's first son, circumstantially designate Daniel as his parent. ... Two references were found to a Daniel in Charles County [Md]. On 30 January 1688/9 Daniel Carrill entered his cattle and hog mark as 'The Ayse of Spades in ye right eare and a hole in ye left eare.' The second reference appears in a court case settled on August 25, 1694, in which Daniel Caroll recovered costs and damages from Emannuell Ratclife, who had sued him for a note dated 24 November 1691. No other references were found for Daniell, and his identity has not been further established."
 
"By a Westmoreland County deed of 24 June 1713, Daniel Carrell gave a cow to Edward Porter, 'son to my present wife Mary." His so designating Mary strongly suggests there was a previous wife, who is thought to have been the mother of Demse. At the same time, Daniel entered his cattle mark of 'a Cropp and four Slitts in each eare.' This is not the same mark used by Daniell of Charles County, Maryland, making it doubtful they were the same person. The Mary Porter, above, maiden name unknown, was the widow of Edward Porter on whose estate she was grated letters of administration in Westmoreland County on 25 July 1705.
	Evidence of the marriage of Daniel and Mary has not been located but is thought to have occurred between 1710-11 and 1713. While it is possible Mary was the mother of one or more of Daniel's children, nothing has been found to indicate this.
	On 26 May 1714, the Westmoreland Court granted Mary Carroll a certificate to obtain letters of administration on the estate of Daniel Carroll. An inventory recorded August 12th that same year, valued at 15,000 Shillings, included livestock, household items, guns, and books, but no land. Mary Carroll's name was on the inventory but no distribution or guardian account was filed, and nothing further is known of her.
	There is evidence that Demse Carrell may have had one or more siblings. The will of John Poore of North Farnham Parish, Richmond County, dated 5 July and proved 6 August 1718, bequeated to 'my Godson Demsead Carrell' 33 pounds sterling and a cow, and 'unto ffrances Carrell his Sister' one feather bed with its furniture. No other reference to Frances has come to light, nor to Demse in Richmond County. In addition the register of North Farnham Parish records the marriage of Daniel Carill to Ann Lase on 28 February 1726/7. It may be that Demse had an older brother Daniel, named for their father. The same register also lists the death of Sarah Carel, 17 November 1726, but she has not been identified.
	A Fairfax County entry might also relate to another sibling. On 18 January 1743 Demse witnessed and proved a lease from Robert Bates to William Carrol, his wife Elizabeth and daughter Ann, all of that county. As with Daniel, the name William was passed down in the Carrell family, although the latter was usually given with a middle name."

e-mail 3/17/00 from Susan    Snuzzen@aol.com    "Daniel was his father ... there are rumors that his wife was Mary DEMPSEY ... can't prove this."  

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	That's all I have on the specific Daniel given as Demse's likeliest father. The colonial  southside Carrells (which brought Lea into this discussion) are: Prince George Co: Patrick, carried message from Cherokees to House 1716; William transported bef 1722; and Daniel in Prince George Co. who signed the deed in Brunswick Co. with George Hicks of Surry Co. Brunswick Co: John from 1725 on ... of Northampton Co. NC 1756.  Daniel first appears in 1732 as 'of Pr Geo Co', but in Brunswick from then through will dated 1773, wife Sarah (or Landah /  Hannah / Sandal Carrell) son George, grandson Daniel Carrell .. on Sarah's death to Peter Goodwin.  
	Carrells who absenteed themselves from church 1732-1737 Brunswick Co. -- Benjamin, John -- named brothers in this. Benjamin appears in records from this point .. to 1745. Enter deeds for William Carrell 1735 ... 1736 rec'd land in will John Raines ... appt'd by his brother Thomas exec. of Thomas' Brunswick Co. will 1756;  Eliz. Jewell was Wm Carroll's wife (Granville Co. NC" per will Samuel Jewell 1777 in Brunswick Co. VA.
	George Carrell and Waltons appear together in Brunswick Co. 1757.  Thomas Carroll appears first 1743 in deed from Wm Smith & Anne his wife, 300 acs of 645 acs So side Otterdams, wit: Cuthbert Smith, Sm Morris . [Is this the step-son of Demse Carroll d.1776?] Thomas and wife Ann sold this tract 1752.  Patience name their dau in 1756 m. to Samuel Gavin of Sampson Co. NC. Thomas' will (Brunswick Co.) dated 1756 -- wife exec ... then appt my bro William, daus Mary, Anne, Rebeccah and Betsy at 18 or at marriage ... wit: Andrew Troughton, Daniel Hicks and William Dunn. Inv. 1757. The widow Ann m. John Wrenn.  John and Ann's, admn of T. Carrell's estate to Gray  Briggs and W. S(?)y Nelson.   [LSS here -- Nelson's appear in Shadrack Pinkston's lineage.]